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supremz - Group: Member - Total Posts: 1607
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Posted on: 04/21/24 11:06AM

Also keep in mind that the world population was also minus 2 billion people only a few decades ago, and while I’m not sure if you can make any sociological connection to that and video games becoming mainstream, that’s still a lot more people who can buy them.



Hee-Ho - Group: Member - Total Posts: 2361
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Posted on: 04/21/24 12:04PM

Orphan_crippler said:
Ask your average Joe if they knew a game name besides DK and Pacman, for a very long time most normal people weren't able to name a single modern game (not new, even games released 5 years before) besides the 3 games they touched in an arcade during the 80s, it was a niche hobby for a very long time, but that did change in the last 10 years.

This whole convo reminds me of this.
yewtu.be/watch?v=zlJrEwEMIpM

Anyway, it's a big claim to have that video games were meant for a niche audience in the 80s, I believe that Toga insinuated that video games were a 80s/90s thing which is not true.

Video games existed way back before any of you existed, the ever first video game was released in 1958, yes, the 50th year of the 20th century. And yes, it wasn't as big. Since they were a novelty at the time. Besides, they were considered toys, for children to crunch the edge of the box until it explodes, that was until Atari came in where video games became it's own medium, like how Tanks became a walking killdozer.
But Atari ruined the market since they dumped games after games without leaving them to breath, it caused a huge burnout and the worth became zinch until Nintendo came along and revitalized video games as a whole.
And yes, Nintendo did made video games globally known, because Nintendo (and Atari sometimes) were aiming a whole audience, not just your kind, the first party Nintendo games (DK, SMB, Duck Hunt, etc) were designed for a casual experience in mind, unlike third-party games like Mega Man, which also helped Nintendo's conquest of relevancy. Then in the 90s when Sega came along to attract more teenage audience with Sonic the Hedgehog, Streets of Rage and Shinobi and the rest is history.
My point is, Gaming was already a cultural phenomenon, if it wasn't well known then we wouldn't had controversies which fuel the console wars (like MK controversy by Nintendo to smite Sega and invented the ESRB), Madden games and other miscellaneous. It had history.
Sure there were niche side of things, most notably on PC, which the most well known game on PC where DOOM and Wolfenstein 3D at the time. Ironically, in Europe and Russia, PC gaming were huge back in the day while consoles were not, unlike most nations/continents.




Hee-Ho - Group: Member - Total Posts: 2361
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Posted on: 04/21/24 12:06PM

supremz said:
Also keep in mind that the world population was also minus 2 billion people only a few decades ago, and while I’m not sure if you can make any sociological connection to that and video games becoming mainstream, that’s still a lot more people who can buy them.

We were talking about the 80s, where human population was 4,444,007,706.



supremz - Group: Member - Total Posts: 1607
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Posted on: 04/21/24 12:08PM

tbh we all sound like our grandparents now who used to complain about how everything was much better in their day before everyone watched tv constantly



ThePigeon - Group: Member - Total Posts: 7196
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Posted on: 04/21/24 12:20PM

Hee-Ho said:
We were talking about the 80s, where human population was 4,444,007,706.

Ooooh, so precise, so exact.



Zaxxon - Group: Member - Total Posts: 366
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Posted on: 04/21/24 01:20PM

supremz said:
tbh we all sound like our grandparents now who used to complain about how everything was much better in their day before everyone watched tv constantly


The radio will be our downfall.
Television will be our downfall.
Video games will be our downfall.
The internet will be our downfall.


Same shit, different gen, rinse repeat.



supremz - Group: Member - Total Posts: 1607
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Posted on: 04/21/24 02:19PM

We were talking about the 80s, where human population was 4,444,007,706.

Before that a few people mentioned the 90’s/00’s.

The radio will be our downfall.
Television will be our downfall.
Video games will be our downfall.
The internet will be our downfall.


Same shit, different gen, rinse repeat

Pretty much. I know I’m a grumpy older man and I’m getting to that midlife crisis age where you bitch about everything constantly, but at least I am aware enough to know when I’m making the same mistakes my ancestors did.



Hee-Ho - Group: Member - Total Posts: 2361
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Posted on: 04/21/24 02:46PM

Fearmongeling by the afraid extreme conservatives.



SadSap - Group: Member - Total Posts: 4504
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Posted on: 04/21/24 03:57PM

Again, you're really going to have to define "huge" and "big".

As orphan_crippler said, your average joe in the 80's would've struggled to name a video game other than Mario, Donkey Kong, Pac Man, or Pong.

And more importantly, they were absolutely peanuts compared to the movie industry and the television industry at the time.



Hee-Ho - Group: Member - Total Posts: 2361
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Posted on: 04/25/24 01:35AM

Apple allows emulators now on their appstore.
Now Nintendo can cry more.



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