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MyPitah commented at 2015-07-07 02:27:06 » #1772272
From what i've seen, through animated gifs and webms on this site, this magical girls anime has pretty awesome fight scenes, but at the same time its transformation sequence are pretty ridiculous. I mean... Perfume as the transformation trigger ?!? O_o
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From what i've seen, through animated gifs and webms on this site, this magical girls anime has pretty awesome fight scenes, but at the same time its transformation sequence are pretty ridiculous. I mean... Perfume as the transformation trigger ?!? O_o
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Anonymous commented at 2015-07-07 16:52:28 » #1772576
It's a magical girl show; of course the transformation sequences are going to be silly. This is the second Precure season that uses perfumes as their transformation device. The first Precure season that did this was Heartcatch Precure. Anyway, it's been a very good season so far.
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It's a magical girl show; of course the transformation sequences are going to be silly. This is the second Precure season that uses perfumes as their transformation device. The first Precure season that did this was Heartcatch Precure. Anyway, it's been a very good season so far.
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MyPitah commented at 2015-07-08 03:53:28 » #1772808
#1772576 : there's amusingly silly and insultingly silly. In the amusingly silly section you'll find most of the amazing magical girls, like Card Captor or Sailor Moon, while in the insultingly silly you'll have some like this one that are downright insulting for woman image. Since when the magical girl being a girl meant you'd need to use all the cliched stereotypes attributed to girls (and by boys) ? And by the way i'm a boy myself...
Yet like i said in this case it's just the transformation sequences. The rest of it seems quite good. Nothing horrorful like, say, Creamy the singer ? xD
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#1772576 : there's amusingly silly and insultingly silly. In the amusingly silly section you'll find most of the amazing magical girls, like Card Captor or Sailor Moon, while in the insultingly silly you'll have some like this one that are downright insulting for woman image. Since when the magical girl being a girl meant you'd need to use all the cliched stereotypes attributed to girls (and by boys) ? And by the way i'm a boy myself...
Yet like i said in this case it's just the transformation sequences. The rest of it seems quite good. Nothing horrorful like, say, Creamy the singer ? xD
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Anonymous commented at 2015-07-08 04:37:31 » #1772824
@ My Pitah: Insulting? This is a show for aimed at little girls and there's no insult of any kind in the show. Do you want an "insultingly silly" transformation device? Look at Shinken Gold's Sushi Changer and Starninger's Star Burger and look at Starninger himself: a walking stereotype. Sailor Moon was hardly amazing. She, like DBZ's Goku, is a product of her time.
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@ My Pitah: Insulting? This is a show for aimed at little girls and there's no insult of any kind in the show. Do you want an "insultingly silly" transformation device? Look at Shinken Gold's Sushi Changer and Starninger's Star Burger and look at Starninger himself: a walking stereotype. Sailor Moon was hardly amazing. She, like DBZ's Goku, is a product of her time.
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MyPitah commented at 2015-07-08 05:08:47 » #1772839
1) It's a Shojo, like all heavily fight-focused magical girls shows. If you want a show that is actually aimed for little girls, go for "My Little Pony" (no offense). Shojos (is that how it's written in plural ?), on the other hand, by definition use several Shonen codes and rules, that make them hardly girl-specific, let alone "little" girl...
2) I'll trust your judgment on those 2 you mention, since i don't know them
3) All shows are products of their time, it changes nothing except the fact that some stereotype usage is more acceptable (in a sense) for older shows than it is for more modern ones. Take japanese-aimed racism in Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, for instance. Remember scenes like the one when an "expert" identifies a rope piece as belonging to ninjas simply because it's labeled "Made in Japan" ? That was not that much of a shock in the 80s cartoon show, was it ? But nowadays that's another story.
Same goes for everything in that regard, and that's why, while i'm in favor of gender balance, i can tolerate (to a degree) non-joking sexism and gender insulting statements in older shows and games, while i cannot in more modern ones. One has to judge a product while taking all contexts in consideration, including era. ;)
And back to Sailor Moon, It was a typical Shojo. Not the best, i'll grant you that (i was more of a card captor fan in my youth. Goes well with Pokémon games and Digimon TV shows, i guess... xD) but it was still a Shojo none the less. After all the battles and the sexy outfit were hardly intended for girls, were they ? But other parts of the show were. ;)
4) I'll take either Creamy or Gigi, to take a girls-specific magical girl show (Creamy being the most mind f*cking of the 2). Even they were not girly enough to use something as stereotyped as perfume as the transformation trigger. And despite the fact that, in Creamy's case in particular, that could have worked since she's not a fighter, she's a singer !
So all in all, yeah. Insulting is the correct word, and shows intended for girls can be insulting too, even old one. True for games too, take Barbie (NES) for instance, even for its time that's amazing how low the devs think of their heroine. According to the game ending, her greatest ambition in life is to have a new set of shoes.....................
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1) It's a Shojo, like all heavily fight-focused magical girls shows. If you want a show that is actually aimed for little girls, go for "My Little Pony" (no offense). Shojos (is that how it's written in plural ?), on the other hand, by definition use several Shonen codes and rules, that make them hardly girl-specific, let alone "little" girl...
2) I'll trust your judgment on those 2 you mention, since i don't know them
3) All shows are products of their time, it changes nothing except the fact that some stereotype usage is more acceptable (in a sense) for older shows than it is for more modern ones. Take japanese-aimed racism in Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, for instance. Remember scenes like the one when an "expert" identifies a rope piece as belonging to ninjas simply because it's labeled "Made in Japan" ? That was not that much of a shock in the 80s cartoon show, was it ? But nowadays that's another story.
Same goes for everything in that regard, and that's why, while i'm in favor of gender balance, i can tolerate (to a degree) non-joking sexism and gender insulting statements in older shows and games, while i cannot in more modern ones. One has to judge a product while taking all contexts in consideration, including era. ;)
And back to Sailor Moon, It was a typical Shojo. Not the best, i'll grant you that (i was more of a card captor fan in my youth. Goes well with Pokémon games and Digimon TV shows, i guess... xD) but it was still a Shojo none the less. After all the battles and the sexy outfit were hardly intended for girls, were they ? But other parts of the show were. ;)
4) I'll take either Creamy or Gigi, to take a girls-specific magical girl show (Creamy being the most mind f*cking of the 2). Even they were not girly enough to use something as stereotyped as perfume as the transformation trigger. And despite the fact that, in Creamy's case in particular, that could have worked since she's not a fighter, she's a singer !
So all in all, yeah. Insulting is the correct word, and shows intended for girls can be insulting too, even old one. True for games too, take Barbie (NES) for instance, even for its time that's amazing how low the devs think of their heroine. According to the game ending, her greatest ambition in life is to have a new set of shoes.....................
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Anonymous commented at 2015-07-10 20:53:48 » #1774372
If you're going to whiteknight, you ought to target anime that use transformation sequences for gratuitous nudity. That's far more "insulting" than what goes on in Precure.
Also if you're trying to be persuasive, putting ;) in your rebuttals will not convince many people of your intelligence.
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If you're going to whiteknight, you ought to target anime that use transformation sequences for gratuitous nudity. That's far more "insulting" than what goes on in Precure.
Also if you're trying to be persuasive, putting ;) in your rebuttals will not convince many people of your intelligence.
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